Website and Web Service Reviews
Most bloggers would be having an idea about what the comment relish plugin is. Now, for those who are unaware of the functions of the plugin, here is a quick recap. Comment relish is a wordpress plugin that sends an e-mail message to users who comment on your website who have never commented before.
This message that is sent can be customised by you to your liking. Also, it is possible to add links to your site in the message. This message to the commenter is basically a “thank you” message in most sites using this plugin. From all I said, most would conclude that it is a very useful plugin in bringing back visitors and encouraging them to comment. Having used it for quite some time now, I decided to quit using it after a discussion with a friend.
Why have I stopped using it?
Because of the following reasons:
1. People hate auto responders:
Most bloggers would already be knowing about the plugin or may already be using them and so, they would know that a similar system exists on your blog. Other visitors, who do not know the plugin by name would have experienced the same “thanks for visiting my site” message elsewhere. By this, they can easily conclude this is automated. It is highly unlikely that many blogs would have such similar “thank you” messages.
And automated messages do not elicit any appreciation from users. When I get an automated mail from any place I’ve been to, I simply know that my contribution was not acknowledged by a person but by a computer. And I also know that a computer would probably acknowledge a contribution even if it was made by a laboratory rat. So, that scores no points with me. On the contrary, I feel disgusted because the blog owner has treated me like a bot and not a human. I certainly will not feel inclined to visit a blog like that again.
2. Looks like a desperate attempt to publicize the blog
Publicity is good when done the right way. Most of the blogs using this plugin that I’ve come across send emails to me that usually consist of a two line thank you message and one full paragraph of how good the blog is and why I would not be cool if I didn’t subscribe to it. Those people, who think the mail you sent is not spam and who bother to read the mail, would certainly have another reason not to visit your blog.
3. Not the best first impression
The fact is this. A person comments on a blog, expecting interaction with the blogger or other visitors/commenters on the blog. Nobody is expecting a personalised “thank you” for commenting. Since it was the visitor’s first comment on the blog, a good impression is needed to gain his trust.
By sending an automatic message, you are simply not sending the right signals to him. The message would imply to many that the blog is trying to spam. Some may simply not bother about visiting the blog the next time, thinking that they may be subjected to another piece of spam. And when the first impression is nowhere near the best, as in this case, you have just lost another potential subscriber.
What are the alternatives?
Remember, blogging is about building relationships and not only about increasing the subscriber count and the no. of unique hits
. You may never know, you can make a friend for life on the net.
Do leave your opinions and suggestions regarding this post.
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50 People have responded. What about you?
Smart of you to have de-activated that plugin. It really is annoying, as I told you earlier. And I’m glad you’re encouraging others to de-activate it too.
I am not a fan of this plugin, but I think some people would appreciate it, while others won’t for many of the reasons you highlighted.
it’s kind of one of those things where you like it or hate it!
I would certainly like to hear the point of view of those who patronise this plugin.. It is certainly debatable, I guess..
I use disposable e-mails usually when I comment, and that kind of plugin is half the reason why. There are much better ways to show appreciation for comments, as you pointed out, and I don’t really see the point. When I get an email like that it’s possible that the person hasn’t even read my comment yet.
I have not used this plugin till now , i agree with your points but it might depend on person to person .
Agreed on #1 fully! I’m glad that I didn’t install the plugin and to see people like me around.
Hello,
High Tech combined with High Touch will always be the winner, you choose.
Vijay
I think it’s a great plugin and great concept, however I think it does get annoying at times. There’s quite a few blogs that use it and when I first commented on them I’d get the email. I was amazed that the author of the blog “took the time” to send it, but then I realized when I commented with another name I received it again…
-Gregg
I follow the alternative mentioned by you, believe me it really works 100%.
@Nirmal: Yes, that is probably the simplest and best way to show your thanks.
@Gregg: I received my first such mail only after coming to hear of it. But I didnt think about the consequences then
@Ben: For me, I guess its better late than never to uninstall the plugin
@Madhur: You are right, I still would like to know what a supporter of this plugin would say!
@Oznob43: I dont use fake email IDs but one that is not for personal mails.
@Vijay: Absolutely!
Hey! That was a good post. Turned it off a while earlier. Read on JohnChow’s blog the other day that it slows down WP…
I absolutely agree with you. I hate the comment relish plugin. I would definitely appreciate you much more if you respond to my comment personally in your blogpost or even better if you leave a quality comment in my blog.
You are so right , the reasons you mentioned are why I don’t use it. I Thank my commenter individually its hard but worth it.
Interesting. Actually, the first time and only time I received an automated message with this plugin I thought it was pretty cool. I haven’t installed it yet, but after reading this post, I don’t believe I will.
I definitely see that most are against the plugin. But, it is certainly only for the good of the blogs, because, in the absence of the plugin, blogger interaction increases greatly.
Thank you all, for your comments
Thanks for sharing the info with all of us. I have had this annoying experience of going through such automated ‘Thank you’ messages.
I am glad you liked the post suresh!
Vijay, I was really excited about this plugin when I came across it, but after I realized a couple from other bloggers I kinda knew what my readers would feel. It is all the more relevant if your readership involves mostly bloggers but might be good for blogs talking about say for e.g. gardening or cooking.
Of course, it’ll never be the same as a personalized thank you note but better than nothing for a person who is short on time.
So my take on this is, it depends.
K-Inthehouse, as you say it may be better than nothing, but by doing that you may gain a couple of readers, but lose more.
In the long run, this may prove less profitable as the proportion of people getting turned off would be more.
Good points. I’ve never thought about it that way, but it really makes sense if you give it a second thought.
I’ve installed the plugin one or two weeks ago and all it did was to crash my site after half an hour. I couldn’t access it until I deleted the plugin via FTP.
(P.S.: Rejoice! Your post will be one of my favorite ones for the Blog Project 3
)
(P.P.S.: Consider adding the author’s name somewhere in the WP theme, I was desperately looking for it to make the comment more personal)
Thank you for your opinions Celebrienne. Did that happen to your site because of the no. of commenters?
Thanks again for picking my post as your favorite! I appreciate the gesture!
And I’ll make it a point to include the author’s name soon. I wonder how I never noticed it before
I also deactivated this plugin a while ago because it may seem like spam to receivers and may actually put them off of commenting. Also, it is very inefficient because it goes through all of your comments to check whether the person has commented before and on blogs with a lot of comments this can use up lots of bandwidth.
Thanks for commenting WebD.. Actually the second point you mentioned was the cause of problems to John Chow and he surely gave up the idea of using that ever again!
I certainly agree – especially with numbers 1 and 3. It’s quite annoying and I don’t like getting emails unless I’ve specifically subscribed to something.
I have to sort through hundreds upon hundreds of emails every day, so getting more each time I comment on someone’s blog just adds to my email woes.
Very good post, and it’s good that you stopped using it.
Shine on,
Aaron
Yes indeed, Yahoo’s spam filter is really lousy and it lets through atleast 20 spam emails every day.. And then these mails would simply add on to the problems.
Came to your site right on time! I am still very new to all the plug ins since I just recently moved to WordPress… only a couple of weeks ago.. and downloaded this plugin just yesterday!! I think all your said here makes sense and I will continue to just making friends the old fashioned way
commenting and thanking on people’s blogs… thanking via emails does have a discord from blogs!!
great blog you have here!
Thanks a lot for taking the time to comment pearl. I am glad that you’ve found this useful
I worry that some of those third party auto responders are harvesting email addresses as they pass through.
@Duncan: I don’t think Comment Relish does that though.. But getting automated mails is a pain in itself. Sorry about the late reply!
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I would much rather have a response from a real person instead of an auto-responder. I also visit many of the bloggers that leave comments on my blog. I have found some great sites and new friends that way. I was visiting another site that you had left a message on and followed it to your site and this article.
Comments are useful and very powerful tools indeed.. A good comment in a post on a popular blog can get you hundreds of visitors..
Thanks for your comments, Patricia!
Notifier of follow up comments,when checked by default was even more annoying….I do have that but i don’t check it by default…I have it,if just in case the reader wanted to be notified or wanted answer for some question…
i do agree with you on comment relish too…it takes away the humanness but plugins are meant to automate human tasks…i have not yet used it though…cheers,Rajesh
Hello! I’m Brandon! I like your site! Pretty design, convinient navigation! Very good!
Thanks for your comments Rajesh! I usually send a request blog owners with checked subscribe boxes to remove them if possible!
Sorry about the late reply!
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Nice bunch of tips.. Thanks
it’s not that bad i think..
i don’t see all automated things mean the author is lazy or uncaring his/her readers. sometimes automating become the best way to maintain relations and to give the best service.
as long as the generated reply is well written and not boasting too much self promotion, i don’t mind. as new readers grows, i need it. i can balance the invitation to subscribe to my feed with a free download link or something
Louis, automated replies are standard with busy bloggers, who use them to indicate that they’ve received the message from us and would contact us sometime soon..
However, automated mails on commenting is something even big blogs don’t follow. Replying to a comment on the post itself is something that would appeal to readers..
But even if that does exist, I agree that a modest one would be the best thing to do..
Thanks for your comments!
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Comment relish can be tweaked to benefit from it’s strength – the automation.
I now have it setup so that when someone new posts a comment on my show, comment relish emails ME to let me know what the comment was and who posted it (their email address).
I can then manually send a personal message to that person to thank them for their comment.
Without comment relish this process would almost certainly never happen.
Regards
Andrew
Thumbs up to the alternative, thats the method I have been using and will always continue to do so when it comes to replying on a comment.
A personal thanks coupled with visiting the commenter’s blog is more appreciated than an automated email.
The concept would have been perfect if only the plugin author had it configured to generate an email as per the reply and that too if the commenter was made aware before hand of the impending “Personalised” thank you email – @Author if reading – food for thoughts maybe?
I installed the plugin few minutes ago and I was about to activate it. Meanwhile I read your article. My next task is to to delete the plugin
I think this plug-in is good , it only sends a message to the first time commentators and if you send a good message I think people will like it. If you really want to send a personalized message you can get the generated e-mail delivered to you and then personalize the message as you see fit , thus semi automating the process.